of energy. A 5" S&W 629 .44 Magnum revolver being fired with full power ammo at the point of maximum recoil. Handguns for Bear Defense: a Study by Caliber - Concealed Nation And he said nothing about thinking through the 29 reportswhich were somebody elses work, not his and making sure he understood them all the way through. He said it was his hunting partners gun. I mention this one because of its immense stopping power at extremely close distances. It is loaded with the best bear ammo that their internet research recommends. He took that bear with his Stalker..and a great ad for that gun was a pic of Larry standing and facing the end wall of the cabin after the storm, with the bear mounted flat on the wall. Back then we didnt have hearing protectors and YES it was loud! The 10mm is also coming into popularity because of capacity. I wonder what Larry Kelly would have to say about the negative talk here about the Magnaport Stalker handguns that his company builtand he took to Alaska and the African continent to do his testing with it way back in the late 70s or 80s. The cause and the effect of the .44 shot is obvious in the video. 1. Nelson says after about 20 shots, his wrist starts to swell and he can no longer shoot. 44 mag ammo can help you do just that. The hunters violated the most basic safety rule when cleaning game to pack out. I am a fan of the .38 but grizz country aint the place for it. Wheres your manning-up and saying you were wrong, Hank? Caliber: .44 Magnum Barrel length: 4.125 inches Overall length: 9.6 inches Weight: 41.5 ounces Grips: synthetic Sights: front red ramp, rear adjustable white outline Action: double action Finish: polished stainless Capacity: 6 rounds Price: $949 Featured image: Doug Larson Discussion However, if you are dealing with an especially large or aggressive bear, you may need something more powerful. Next to Bison, they are the second largest cause of fatalities and mauling s in Yellowstone Park. If we consider only delivered energy, the 44-magnum cartridge resides in the middle of the range that is considered adequate for a bear defense handgun. Again, Im not saying this because I necessarily disagree with you, Im saying it because it hurts your own cause. Please dont take out your rage on your wife or kids tonight. They made it to a small hunting cabin but went to find some firewood outside and upon opening the door, the bear was going to come in! Can a 44 Magnum kill a bear? I am not looking to go toe to toe with a Grizzly, but if I am out bow hunting or have set down my rifle to gut a deer it is far better to have a handgun that will effectively penetrate a large animal than to scramble for my rifle if I get charged. I do have one. The 44 magnum is almost unspeakably more powerful than the 22 rimfire, so of course it will kill a bear. Need to read Elmer Keiths accounts of animal attacks in Hell, I was there. What did work was the short barrel shotgun. As a geologist, Nelson has killed four bears in defense of life and property (DLP), including two black bears and two grizzlies. Thoughtful, knowledgeable, unusual, and well-written. And they dont work well if you dont shake the cans from time to time, just like spray paint. You criticize Dean for his 30 cases, all of which are sourced, yet you flat out refuse to source your own claims. 2. This stopped many tigers that had attacked the hunters riding atop elephants in India! I have been asking for people to send in documented instances of people attempting to use pistols to defend against bears for over a year. The comparative recoil data shows the difference between our chosen calibers. Lets face it. Knowing the approximate distance at which you will be encountering bears is an important factor in choosing the right round for your firearm. I can't imagine anyone feeling comfortable packing a .44 mag. Your drugs. Several folks have even successfully killed bears with a 9mm. They were attacked by a large grizzly bear . All of the guides I have hunted with insist that everyone have a bear defense firearm on their person almost at all times. Heard that from a park ranger or game warden, no doubt. And if you go into the North Bush influenced by Weingarten, he just might get you killed. Bears can be very dangerous when theyre angry, so its best to stay out of their reach. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!! Should be easy to find if they are out there. Your personal decision to sit on your ass too much. Now theres some first-class thinking Thats the reason why infantrymen have left their rifles back at camp when they go into battle for the last thousand years. For many backwoods trekkers, hunters, and homesteaders the 44 mag is the mainstay of their bear defense. AK: Kim Woodman Kills Charging Grizzly with 10 mm 29 July, 2016 On 29 July, 2016, about 4 p.m. Kim Woodman was attacked by a sow brown bear at Humpy Creek. Make sure youre familiar with your firearm and its capabilities. My state used to require a class and a license to buy pepper spray, and I lived there, so I took the class. I havent seen anyone advocate using a pistol as an offensive weapon for bears in this thread, or in the article, it is specifically about using a pistol as a defensive weapon on a charging bear. Not at all. A charging grizzly bear can reach speeds of 35 mph an hour for short distances and their acceleration rate is phenomenal. 2 (90-5-5) alloy and size them to .430. Since then, I have switched to a GunfightersINC chest holster. BLACK BEARS: ONE DEAD HIKER EMPTIED .38 IN HIM AND CAN SEE HOW WELL THAT WORKED. WHEN FURTHER A FIELD ALSO CARRY MARLIN SS 1895 LEVER WITH BUFFALO BORE RECOMMENDED ROUND IN 45-70. The minimum caliber for black bear is .30-06 Springfield. Grizzly bears can operate much longer that humans due to the way their circulatory system/muscles work. These are all factors that need to be considered when choosing a caliber for a serious and serviceable bear defense firearm. NOT A SHILL FOR BUFFALO BORE, REMINGTON, HORNADY OR WINCHESTER, BLACK HILLS OR OTHERS BUT JUST LIKE THE WAY THEY HAVE ALWAYS HELPED ME SELECT THE PROPER ROUND FOR THE SITUATIONS I WOULD BE IN. Thats the reason why deer hunters dont waste their time with deer rifles, and duck hunters dont waste their time with shotguns. No, but if he cant get his long gun out its better than a knife or bare hands (pardon the pun). What handgun can kill a grizzly bear? This is really what the .44 mag was designed for., Yup. .30-06 Springfield (180gr Nosler Partition at 2,750fps): 21.8 Check the following. 2. And you have no idea how much anybody here spends in Bear Country. of energy, and it takes a big grizzly to weigh 1,000 pounds. The first was simply a test to see how far it would spray. Will a 44 Magnum stop a grizzly bear? I have found 30 instances so far. here: Live survive love laugh and be happy, not screaming in terror before dying in pain, 7mm Remington Magnum (168gr Nosler AccuBond LR at 2,880fps): 19.6 It was used 12 times. One of the more powerful handguns available today, the .454 is capable of pushing a 300-grain Buffalo Bore bullet at 1650 fps with 1,813 ft.-lbs. A Smith & Wesson Model 29, in .44 Remington Magnum - completely in the vein of Dirty Harry - still makes an excellent choice for the bear woods. Oh, and the other key to using .44 Magnum to successfully stop a large grizzly bear attack is HAVING IT ON YOUR PERSON. Heard that from: a city weenie whos never met a bear. Yet the .500 Smith & Wesson Magnum handgun produces 2,254 ft.-lbs. However, most experts recommend using a bullet with a grain weight of at least 300 in order to ensure the greatest chance of success in stopping a bear. I had no expectation that the pistol would kill the bear. If youre ever faced with a bear attack, youll need to know how to defend yourself. Available in shorter versions like the Smith & Wesson 629 with 4-inch barrel, the .44 Mag. When grizzlies threaten, North Country sportmen pick up long guns, not revolvers. Hes an intelligent and well-educated man who honestly believes his own be-afraid B.S., but its still be-afraid B.S. If I had to camp for the night. Maybe you should pay more attention to the world around you and have a little less Tude with everyone.