I've made an attempt to at least present some links to what should be reliable sources of information. Thanks for providing me a second look at it. That is disrespectful. You suggest GMO Crops show promisehow about a track record of crop failures and disasters? It is a free country and they can do that. Monsanto owned seed brands OWNED BY MONSANTO OR SEMINIS OR SELL SMALL Someone above in this thread, mentioned that they were not concerned with whether or not Monsanto was buying up seed companies, because they doubted that Monsanto would ever sell GMO seeds to home gardeners, because of a worry about their patent. Ferry Morse Seed Company is one of America's oldest and most trusted garden seed companies. Youll have to show me where I have labeled you. https://www.msu.edu/~howardp/seedindustry.html. Ferry-Morse - Flower Seeds - Plant Seeds - The Home Depot 202 S Washington St, Norton, MA 02766 Organic 1-Gram Parsley Flat Italian Herb (Seed Packet) Model # 464433.249.908043. They are trying to sensationalize things through scare tactics, in my opinion. I imagine there are many people who have stock funds that they don't even know have these stocks in them. If you have some opinion on GMO seeds, on Monsanto, or other companies producing GMO seeds, or the preservation of non GMO seeds, which are the topic of this thread, then perhaps you might share that in concise and direct language and leave out the rest. You surmise that. I feel all comments among us should be assumed to be in good faith without having to win favor in "the benefit of the doubt", as this shouldn't be a political forum. Not relevant enough. I bought them last year and it was so convenient not to have to search all over the place for some of the items. You evidently see no need to choose a side, but in making no choice you actually do make a choice. I have to stop here, I havent even been able to read the comments made after Pupillas. As should every living person on the earth. Rather than bow, I will use the word "succumb". Thanks for bringing them to my attention. 0000022414 00000 n Please research the 250,000 suicides issue you referenced in the earlier post. Instead of focusing on Monsanto why not try an article like this, that talks about the other side of the coin. Why would you support that company giving it your money? I always support local agriculture! For that reason I did not respond to your comments that were not relevant to the points, and that should not be assumed to be agreement, but only my way of prioritizing what was important (from my POV). I'm not responsible for what you understand or who is marketing what. 0000519175 00000 n And the hyperbole"Monsanto, maybe the most evil corporation ever". And for the sake of argument, lets say that Monsanto is not now selling GMO seed to home gardeners. Apr 27, 2014 - Monsanto owned seed brands OWNED BY MONSANTO OR SEMINIS OR SELL SMALL PERCENTAGES OF SEEDS FROM THEM. Period. It's important to realize that, while there are definitely aspects of the issue that are, at best, unsavory, and at worst downright deplorable, there are also those beneficial and worthy parts of the whole as well. You already said it is an emotional issue for you and you think it is 1000% wrong. They were certainly optional for anyone that had a desire to read them. Since Ive been too busy responding to your comments, Ive yet to read where the India situation was debunked. I'd also like a list of commercial farmers who are using Monsanto's GMO seed and the products that they end up in so I can avoid those products. From 1856 onward, Ferry Morse seeds have been supplying the freshest and best garden seeds for the home gardens of American gardeners. ~ GMOs dont seem to concern you is that right? To learn from a debate my partner needs to provide quality information. Pupilla, if you didnt intend to discuss GMO, then I cannot understand why you would enter the conversation and object to a boycott of GMO seed companies. I just call you out for using fallacious logic or repeating long debunked claims you choose to provide links for about millions of people dying which have been debunked. Are Ferry Morse seeds good quality? - Daily Justnow 0000518594 00000 n You answer in a round about way. You still dont know that they wont at some future time. This is no different from what was done in the name of religious fervor in the middle ages. So, no, I do not envision Monsanto doing anything about it or "rescuing us" as you put it. The Company was, at a particular time, the largest seed supplier globally. But it was encouraging to read about "small-scale breeders who are developing and stewarding regionally suited crop varieties, nurtured in part by the Organic Seed Alliance. Again, You can buy from any company you want and you will never get any GMO seeds from Monsanto or anyone else. I'm happy with the companies I am doing business with. McKenzie Seeds is a seed packaging company founded in Brandon, Manitoba in 1896. So, is that true or isnt it? It is like watching supermarkets (Big Ag) swallow up the local produce markets (Kramer's Corner Peach Shop), and then either take control over and frequently discontinue products I like. ", Pupilla, it doesn't surprise me, that I made such an unclear statement last night, I was up past my bedtime. So, because of all these conversational choices youve made, from my end, it feels more like a monologue instead of a conversation. Which by the way, you don't actually know is true, unless some lab somewhere is doing random testing on the seed sold by Monsanto seed companies. Are all Ferry Morse seeds heirloom? Here is a quote of what I said --, You seem to still want to believe that GMO seed may not be such a bad thing. I wasn't so much saying you were scare mongering as the article. I dont know what you consider a good source of accurate information about Monsanto, but Ive quickly turned to Wikipedia for some. 0000509934 00000 n It's rhetorical. I've ripped out invasives in my own property. Really, a good rule of thumb is that if an article criticizing GMOs doesn't mention DuPont or Syngenta, they really don't know what they are talking about. Unfortunately the home garden market is only a drop in the bucket and if a big-ag company decided to discontinue it there would be varieties that could be lost forever. Ferry & Co.[2], The business grew steadily and, in 1879, was incorporated under the name D.M. Ferry-Morse. And since I definitely fall on one side of this issue, I can only conclude, that you see me as 'trying to manipulate others with false, misleading, manipulative and incomplete information.'? Its not easy to explain it completely, but Ill give it a try. It is currently part of Green Garden Products, a privately owned gardening company based in Massachusetts. 0000001396 00000 n If there is, it is a very thin line, despite your long explanation of why they are not the same thing. 0000493049 00000 n I disagree, that only when you are trying to convince someone of something, do you need to win their favor. There was one woman who was so completely misinformed about the subject that she was worried that the Miracle-Gro potting mix she bought was GMO. If you want to be sure of what you are buying, buy by variety, not by brand. That should do it. The crop employs nearly a third of the worlds population. Web-equivalent of footnotes. We are off-topic of avoiding GMO seeds (since all home garden seeds are GMO-free, even those from big bad Monsanto). Initially, I did not respond to this because although you framed it in an appeal to dire consequences, you carefully put a disclaimer transferring the burden of fact-checking to others. 0000005445 00000 n I have answered your post this time by copying the body of it and putting yours in italics in its entirety so I would not miss anyting and responded to each and every point. Why are you insisting to know my religious beliefs, which is what I consider this? Ferry-Morse. 0000014051 00000 n How about if the potential outcome is something to really be afraid of, that doesn't matter? I remember in a Facebook gardening group about a year, maybe a year and a half ago, a conversation came up about GMO's, Monsanto, and Scotts/Miracle-Gro. I just wish the world could be as calm about it as you and I. 250 Milli-Gram Eggplant Black Beauty Vegetable (Seed Packet) Model # 466437.199.906735. And are you then saying that because the story about India was not completely accurate, that means that there is nothing to fear? If you need to label me, which I feel is unfair and would not do to you, please put me in the category of "independent thinker" and "undecided" on the whole GMO mess. In 1981, the Ferry-Morse Seed Company was acquired by France's Groupe Limagrain. Do you usually answer questions with yes or no answers? Unless you are saying that all information that is critical of Monsanto is false. I trust them, that they are on the same page as I am about protecting the seed supply from Genetically modified seed. Thanks for pointing me in a direction to find a better list of Seed Companies that are owned by Monsanto. I'm sure that what I've had to say will not be satisfactory to you. If you have some complaint about something in my post, then clearly state what that is. Hollyhock Summer Carnival Mixed Colors Seed. 'Any talk of avoiding the seeds for purchase is circular logic - intended to manipulate people by bullying the and using fear as a weapon'. Ill be back to respond to it when I can. I would wonder that they were going to tamper with them. I keep my variety! It is sort of intended as an "open source", freely distributed GMO introduction going on in Florida right now. The same as I do about Monsanto. More selfish motives that ignore what is good for mankind or the natural world, in general. No real surprise there. If GMOs concern you, then what are your concerns? And you thought these suggestions would make me happy? Do you think the "Natural" or "Original" Species of plants ( and maybe other organisms too ) will go extinct because of the GMOs overpopulating the Whole World? So I don't trust the viability of this list. 0000536209 00000 n Once of the great things about capitalism is that we can vote with our buying patterns. . Ferry-Morse relocated to Kentucky in 1959. Our intention was to be the best source possible for gardeners wanting to grow tomatoes from seed. It is way too long, and was built upon a post that is riddled with misinformation, so it requires far more fact checking then I have time for right now. So any conclusions either of us draw from this conversation are not accurate or complete. Monsanto and the other companies you mention, are basically in the biotech field. 0000003294 00000 n The business was merged into Plantation Products, a privately owned gardening company based in Massachusetts. Ferry-Morse. It is a disease where I will be forced to make a decision if the GM technology is the solution that will save the $10 billion Florida Citrus industry. Without pioneers in the field of biotechnology, we would still be battling diabetes with insulin taken from slaughterhouse animals. McKenzie is Canada's #1 seed packet company. [g] With all the healthy social skills you can muster. I dont care if we lose Monsanto varieties. Any questions I've asked were rhetorical and require no response. You wonder why we don't learn our lesson. Zach - you are right, there is always two sides to an issue, but consider the fact that Monsanto has a fortune to spend on convincing the public to see things from their point of view. I normally would not provide links to support my position. Model# 0020. In fact, I was agreeing with you, after you had already said that. Articles like that are written for people who think that every nonsense thing they read on the internet is true. There is a present and significant danger that the $10 billion citrus industry in Florida will be destroyed and the best solution so far is a GMO project going on. Through generations of care and quality, Ferry-Morse has earned the trust of home gardeners across the country. Do you have 12 months to wait for it? You said it is an emotional issue and I respect that, but it doesn't give anyone the right to say hurtful things like not thinking what you say is important after coming this far. And to be honest, I think above all companies, they won't be lying about this! 0000020325 00000 n That coincided with my first efforts to begin gardening and their organic, 'love the earth' approach was like a life line.
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