This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. Warner's backups were burly all-purpose backs Dan Doornink and David Hughes, plus kick returner Eric Lane and, incongruously, a well-beyond-the-hill Franco Harris. I think DeBerg, who had been an assistant coach with the Giants for a couple years between 1994 and 1997, was signed by the Falcons because their top two quarterbacks went down and he had a long-time relationship with Falcons head coach Dan Reeves: *DeBerg drafted by the Cowboys in the 10th round in 1977 though cut before the season; Reeves was a Cowboys assistant coach at the time under Tom Landry. In reply to "I'm left struggling with by Joe Pancake. Of course I remember him. In recognition of this impressive performance, Krieg's NFL peers named him to his first Pro Bowl. DeBerg moved on, and Krieg found himself handing off to Christian Okoye and Barry Word in a conservative offense for a team run by an old-school head coach that got hammered in the first round of the playoffs. But the tales of that rifle arm and tight spirals into the wind we read in the last section didn't survive into the era of MTV and personal computers. Somehow, Knox resisted the urge to insert the towel boy at quarterback, and the Seahawks pulled out of a team-wide meltdown to win five straight games and nearly reach the playoffs. Krieg led the Seahawks to a pair of easy early-season wins, then suffered one of his midseason mini-apocalypses against the Chargers, throwing three interceptions before a separated shoulder sidelined him for weeks. Like Romo, Krieg rose from the bottom of the bench to have some fabulous seasons, as well as some not-so-fabulous ones. Having lived near the Seattle mediasphere during Krieg's reign I really liked this piece. Tony Romo was uniformly terrific. Hes not a face of the NFL by any means, but almost 200 touchdown passes and three Pro Bowls at age 30 is nothing to sneeze at. Krieg finished in the top 10 in DVOA five times during his neverending career, yet he always seemed to be just one slump away from a seat on the bench. That game against the Chiefs in KC where he was sacked 8 or 9 times but got the game winning TD pass to Skansi. Dave Krieg Web Page Dave Krieg At Milton, a now-defunct small private college in Milton, Wisconsin, Krieg began as the 7th-string quarterback for his school's NAIA team, the Wildcats. Someone even wrote a book about it that was the partial basis for an ESPN 30 for 30 of the same name. Come to find out Jack Patera didn't tell me all week because he thought I'd get too dang nervous. Krieg posted a career of 98-77. Krieg is now a motivational speaker and businessman who sometimes returns to Seattle for "legends of yesteryear"-type events. Ray Didinger called Krieg the "surprise of the year" in a syndicated awards column. Patera's attitude toward unions was predictable. Head coach Jack Patera and offensive coordinator Jerry Rhome liked Krieg, and he latched on in training camp in 1980once again as a seventh-string quarterback, at least according to Krieg's recollections. However, he faltered in midseason, so Coach Knox benched him in favor of Gale Gilbert. I really enjoyed that. In reply to "The Unholy Trinity" as I've by Joe Pancake. General manager Mike McCormack took over as head coach and reinstated Zorn when play resumed in November. WebIn a 1991 game between the New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks, QB Dave Krieg got injured and suffered a broken thumb. Statistically, the 1994 season was the best of Krieg's career: Krieg completed 61.8% of his passes and threw 14 touchdowns versus only 3 interceptions, for a passer rating of 101.7. "Ground Chuck" took flight under Dave Krieg. I think the description of Kreig being part Romo and part Fitzpatrick is pretty good. Zorn, meanwhile, was getting into hot water with Patera, possibly for criticizing the offensive line, possibly for visibly supporting the NFL Players Association in the weeks leading up to a work stoppage. [32], Dave Krieg finished his career with the Tennessee Oilers, backing up the seldom-injured Steve McNair in 1997 and 1998. [8] In his first NFL start against the New York Jets on December 6, Krieg ran for one touchdown and threw for two others, including a 57-yard game-winning completion to Steve Largent. He finished fifth in passing DVOA behind Dan Fouts, Marino, Joe Montana, and Joe Theismann. Fitzpatrick has never led a team to the playoffs; Krieg did it six times. That decision helped doom the Seahawks to several seasons of misery and mediocrity under a succession of uninspired quarterbacks. Recent and Trending topics from Football Outsiders. He finished the season fourth in DVOA (behind Tommy Kramer, Marino, and Boomer Esiason) and eighth in DYAR. As someone old enough to remember when Dave Krieg came on the scene to replace Jim Zorn in 1983, there are a lot of thoughts I want to share, some of which are only tangentially tied to Krieg and some of which were mentioned in the "Aftermath" section of the article: 1) Though Tony Romo was an undrafted player like Krieg (and for that matter Jim Zorn), at least Eastern Illinois University is still in business as an institution of higher learning today. In fact, the media gushed over Krieg, and he was well-regarded (as I recall) among national fans. [18] That December, Krieg was named AFC Player of the Month. Patera tried to fine players half of their game checks for the gesture, which would have cost Zorn $9,000. WebFor many years Krieg held the NFL record for most career fumbles, a result of both a lengthy career at quarterback and unusually small hands for the position. Mahomes has played in the AFC Championship Game every year of his starting career and is the leagues arguable best player. He threw three touchdowns, two of them to Largent, in a blowout victory over the Browns in the season finale. And he's going to be the man 'till something else happens. ", That late surge only brought a small measure of job security, however. Dave Krieg. When David went up to the bar to order a drink, he noticed a guy wearing a flannel jacket, sitting by himself at the bar, nursing a drink. Though I remember both, I was born slightly after the cutoff so I remember Ken Patera better. The Kansas City Chiefs sacked Krieg 9 times, including an NFL-record 7 sacks by linebacker Derrick Thomas. Raiders legend Tom Flores stepped down from the front office to replace him. Free agency was in its infancy, and he was the first in a long line of backups to get mega deals off the back of a few fill-in starts. pic.twitter.com/wmVSmWf5oO I remember feeling like the Seahawks had finally fixed their QB problems but that didn't happen. Tiny hands! I had forgotten the Rams play, that's got to be one of the greatest plays in history. See Photos. Web8 1/2 hand Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) March 3, 2022. Former Seahawks quarterback Krieg inducted into In the last two years where the 49ers qualified for the postseason (2019 and 2021), they won four playoff games with Garoppolo as their starter. Dave is proud to be a board However, even Krieg's good games rarely resulted in Cardinals victories. That's not the sort of thing a team does when it is completely satisfied with its starting quarterback. After breaking his thumb in the season opener, Krieg missed six games in 1991. At least the Seahawks suckered the Bears into giving up a first round pick for him! JavaScript is disabled. Thanks for pointing that out. McCormack returned to the front office in 1983, hiring Chuck Knox as head coach. Must be 21 or older to gamble. Krieg led a 90-yard touchdown drive to bring the Chiefs within 7 points, but the Buffalo Bills scored 10 unanswered points in the fourth quarter to qualify for their fourth straight Super Bowl appearance. Patera, who happened to be the brother of Olympic weightlifter and pro wrestling legend Ken Patera, never coached again after the Seahawks fired him. Krieg Krieg replaced the trio of Steve Beuerlein, Jay Schroeder, and Jim McMahon as Ryan sought the ultimate plucky, seasoned handoff machine. I remember Mirer having a not-terrible rookie year. Krieg is now a motivational speaker and real estate investor as of 2021. Nicknamed "Mudbone" by his Seattle teammates,[17] Krieg led the Seahawks on five-game winning streak to finish the season, during which his passer rating exceeded 126. [24] Despite having an outstanding defense in 1992, their overall record of 214 (.125) remains the worst in franchise history. The Seahawks lost 15-3 to the Giants (Stouffer fumbled out of the back of the end zone) and 41-14 to the Broncos. Heck, Krieg owes most of the last seven years of his career to defense-oriented coaches and their obsession with veteran caretakers. In reply to Have for years merged Dave by MilkmanDanimal. The 15 Largest Hand Sizes in NBA History - HowTheyPlay In reply to the mitchell deal by Jetspete. As someone who started following the league at near the end of Kreig's prime, I didn't really have a good feel for his career arc. I'm guessing White probably wins the starting job anyway, but it isn't inconceivable Zorn orDeBerg manages to grab the starting position instead of White (who it should be noted was a very, very good NFL quarterback for about five seasons). Krieg bounced back a bit in 1986, and the Seahawks started the season 5-2. Kramer suffered a back injury, and Krieg went on to start 12 games. That season, Seattle had a Sunday Night and Monday Night game in back to back weeks, both of which Stouffer started. In 19 seasons, Krieg played in 213 games, completed 58.5 percent of his passes (3,105 of 5,311) for 38,147 passing yards, 261 touchdowns, 199 interceptions and an 81.5 rating. Fortunately the rest of my team was stacked. The Seahawks went 2-1 in replacement games, in part because Largent and a few others crossed the picket lines. The newly-christened "Air Knox" flew better than your average wild turkey. The nine-year Ken Behring era in Seattle after Krieg and Knox's departure was mostly terrible. Wide receiver Steve Largent had just emerged as the team's first true star. Moreover, Krieg's leadership rallied the Lions to a 5-2 regular season finish and a wild card playoff berth. Stouffer, as mentioned, was terrible. The Chiefs of that era were coached by the great Marty Schottenheimer, managed by the great Carl Petersen, and addicted to creaky quarterbacks. Could Stetson Bennett Be the Next Brock Purdy? The Arizona Cardinals rewarded Krieg for his 1994 performance by signing him to be their starting quarterback in 1995. They are always starting for a 6-10 team, and fumbling twice per game. Jim Zorn had been the Seahawks quarterback since the team's inception, a lefty gunslinger and beloved local hero who triggered a pass-happy offense for the era. See Photos. ", Krieg himself made a remark which would prove ironic in the seasons to come. Knox resigned. Have 5hoguht about book like that or. At that point, head coach Chuck Knox named Krieg the Seahawks' new starting quarterback. *DeBerg goes into coaching and becomes the Giants quarterbacks coach in 1995-1996; Reeves was the Giants' head coach and hired DeBerg. Jeff Hostetler signed with the Raiders at the same time Mitchell signed with the Lions, and he kind of worked out okay (didn't light the world on fire stats-wise, but did make a Pro Bowl and won a lot of games as a starter). We come to the Golden Example. EXCELLENT article on our QB and thus draft situation, Some Denver fans not sure we won Wilson trade. Knox had led the Rams and Bills to the playoffs in his last two stops. Football Outsiders content published by ESPN. He's now a high school coach and autism activist. But Krieg produced 21 points in 11 minutes, nearly leading a comeback in a 27-21 loss. The USFL created a bidding war for top players, and once it folded, NFL owners tried to roll back salaries. The Seahawks went 12-4 and avenged themselves against the Raiders in the playoffs but got hammered by Marino's Dolphins in the divisional round. Sports betting and gambling are not legal in all locations. After hovering around .500 forever for Knox and playing for Schottenheimer and Ryan, Krieg was destined to end up with Fisher. Scott Mitchell was the poster boy for falling in love with small sample sizes. DeBerg was actually a pretty decent NFL QB for much of his career, but was always getting replaced by someone who was better or expected to be (and ultimately was) better - Joe Montana, John Elway, Steve Young. In the year's first game, Krieg set a team record by throwing his 108th touchdown;[11] in less than four years as a starter, Krieg had broken a record Zorn had compiled over more than seven starting seasons. He was impressing coaches and teammates with his ability to fire tight spirals into the wind. He played through an era of rapid strategic, financial, and administrative transition across the NFL. However, on the last play of the game, as time expired, Thomas closed in for yet another apparent sack, but Krieg eluded the linebacker and threw a 25-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Paul Skansi for the win. Dave Krieg's Career | Seahawks When Zorn continued to struggle in the final game of the season,[12] Coach Mike McCormack inserted Krieg, who rallied Seattle to a victory over the Denver Broncos. Lol. [30], In 1996, the Chicago Bears signed Krieg to back up Erik Kramer. That quote would have kept the midday sport talk industry busy for a month if the industry existed back then. Well find a hand-size correlation soon. or. Similar to Carr, no one will confuse Garoppolo for an All-Pro. His own coaches, however, were another matter. -The link to the Jets game is the wrong link. He, and his digits, persevered to an all-time career. If you did a book of things like these from throughout the NFL's history (the hall of semi-interesting / semi-forgotten), I would absolutely buy it.