By Greyson P. I just purchase a great used 712 AP2 set. The 4 iron will have a negative bounce if you bend them 2 degrees. How do they test to determine which launch angle best suits you. My wingspan finger tip to finger tip is 78". Machines that adjust for all hosel positions, such asMitchell Angle Machinesare accurate regardless of the offset or hosel design of the golf club. [b]I'm guessing when most say they have been bent 2 degrees, they are talking about the loft[/b]. It would seem that bending lofts stronger would make them go further. simple, 2 degrees upright is what the clubfitter fitted me at. "Just change your swing" isn't always the answer. While some golfers can afford such a price tag to improve their clubs, others will balk at it! If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. i.e. When watching PGA tour on TV, sometimes we are surprised by the distance that the pros hit with their iron. Standard length and lie are perfect for me. When you start messing around with the hozzels and stress on clubs you need to know what you are doing. They know how much torque to put on the hozzel. Pw 45 131, Hickory Bag: Brassie, Mid Iron, Mashie, Mashie Niblick, Niblick, Putter, Driver: PXG 12*; HZDRUS Handcrafted 63 6.0, Long Game: PXG 13*, PXG 16*; HZDRUS Handcrafted 83 6.5 (flip between the two), Driving Iron: PXG 0311 4 iron bent 17.5*; ProForce VTS 100HX (finally found a driving that works), Irons: NIKE VR Pro CBs Raw 4 - PW: Aldila RIP Tour 115 s,these are similar length irons (4 iron 37.75, PW 36.25)7, Wedges: Titleist Vokey 50F, 54D, 58S: DG S300 (will sometimes add in the 58* on shorter courses), Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Design #5 35 inches: Super Stroke GP Tour. Looking For Advice or Feedback, Stealth 3 Wood, Unique Odyssey, RTX Raw, Epic Flash, Ping Eye 2 BeCu 1 iron - $1,000here me out, Your Choice of EvnRoll ER11v Mallets ($210). I had one fitter tell me I could play at 4 deg flat but that seemed a little extreme. 9-iron - 39.5 degrees. There does seem to be an abrupt cut off on the minimum iron loft at slower swing speeds. Tour Player's loft's on irons? - WRX Club Techs - GolfWRX more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pszXHplqx4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pszXHplqx4[/url] (DTL). Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. [/quote] Now tilt the club grip end down a bit so that the club's toe comes up off the ground a fair bit and you'll see the pencil now points subtantially more leftward than before. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). [quote name='OldGolfer87' timestamp='1444324826' post='12428468'] I would advise you to not try it yourself unless you have experience in doing so professionally. I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. The #1 reason for doing this is it changes how the club will sit on the ground. Look at a face on vid at impact and notice hand/front wrist position. I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. #2 reason is to space yardage gaps as needed. Paste as plain text instead, My swing has changed over the years a fair bit, yet i've always needed irons a bit upright from standard (a Euro standard although even that isn't really set in stone or anything).. Once you know what your lie angles are - keep a note if you like, then you can easily know if another brand's irons need adjusting. but, best to check for real by hitting shots with them anyway. This will change the trajectory of the ball, and can potentially cause misdirected shots. rjklein4470, June 3, 2009 in WRX Club Techs. Clear editor. To help you decide whether or not to bend your golf clubs, we take a deep dive into the practice in the following sections and explain what to expect in detail. I would advise you to not try it yourself unless you have experience in doing so professionally. Ping Tour Gorge 50SS, SM5 M-Grind 54/10, TM Tour Preferred 58/10 I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. When you get your set of irons, make sure that both thew lofts AND the lies are checked for consistency. TM tends to increase the bounce on their irons about 50% of the loft change. Maybe it's just me but it seems you can't change the relationship between the loft of the club and the spin, given you're putting the same swing on it. The iron will roll 'open' when bent strong. Basically almost all irons we offer on ExactGolf like all Miuras, Honmas TR20, Vegas and some Mizunos. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable You're actual numbers are really not that bad, they a bit over the PGA tour average but I'm not sure it's worth adjusting all your clubs over. They should be leading and flat. While you can theoretically bend fairway woods and hybrids, the design and loft of irons mean that you can bend them to ensure that theyre consistent from one club to the next. [/quote]actually a "good" player (one who actually CAN control trajectory) could grab 10 different clubs off a rack and MAKE the ball flight in the air look VERY similar (no, that doesn't mean they are all ideal for the player, and no that doesn't mean they all fit him). XXIO X Series 5 Wood! It is just a way to fit the club for your swing, nothing that is going to help your game unless you fall into the same catagory. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. It seems like some of you are talking about loft and some are talking about lie angle. Add in the added forgiveness of modern irons, and you have a winning combination. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. The most easy 'drill' is just hit it lower visually place a hoola hoop a few feet downline and hit the ball through it. Pw from 48* to 45*), that I will completely mess up the grind and . My 5 irons lie is 59 deg whereas the usual 5 iron lie from most manufacturers is more like 61 deg. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. (used to hook, now after lessons - ongoing - cannot hook even if i try to.. still hope to get back to a nice draw..) . Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? 2023 Acushnet Company. Lastly I thought bending irons stronger, influenced the bounce of the club as well. an 8 iron is easier to hit than a 6 iron), I'm trying to draw comparisons to modern irons with stronger lofts, and if . [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='1441131685' post='12246270'] I read your comments on why some bend lofts on iron sets strong and i try to swing smooth because to me swinging hard offers little to no benefit ,please remember im talking about me and not others in general , i have lost speed on my swing over the last 5 years where it was noticable to me , but i truly started losing speed after my rotator cuff and bicep tendon tear on my right arm , i cant say it was a noticable difference but that is when it started in 2010 is when i started bending all my irons strong because of lost distance because i was hitting irons 1/4 to 1/2 a club different and it progressed over the next few seasons to a full 1/2 a club or about 2 degree's and then came a hip replacement in 2014 and when i got back to playing regularly i was bending a 46 degree wedge to 43 degree / 9 iron 39 degree's and so on and i did that to try to get to the same distance i had in 2010 where i hit GW 110 / PW 120 /9 iron 130 and it progressed from there .. What bouncedoes is keep the leading edge from digging into the ground. ), Are Cobra Golf Clubs Good? So I was fitted for clubs and the pro said that on my new clubs I didn't need any adjustment. Currently I'm playing 712 MB's with x100 shafts at standard loft. about 2-2.5 increase in bounce for 4-5 increase in loft. PGA Tour players swing the club fast. [/quote] Your previous content has been restored. SeeMore M6 My personal clubs are 2 up because that's what my fitting said I should be when hitting on a lie board. A variety of reasons- less bounce, less spin, a flatter ballflight, matching a previous set they were comfortable with, etc. so with that said my stronger lofts were nothing more than trying to maintain past iron distances , i would love to be able to hit a 47 or 48 degree pw 120 yrs or even a 155 to 160 yr 7 iron but age and injuries have seem to make that a next to impossible task Lie angles are easiest to adjust in forged irons; sometimes not possible to adjust in cast irons. 4. Bending a golf club allows you to change the angle of your club, which is an effective way of changing your ball flight. United States. You cannot paste images directly. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. The 2-degree limit is only recommended when changing the lofts on irons due to the potential effect such bends will have on the sole angle of the club. For example, when the club is flat, the toe of the club makes contact first and gets slowed down a bit so the clubface opens a bit promoting a fade.
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